r/politics Michigan 6d ago

Florida Democrat rejects governor's order to lower flag in honor of Limbaugh | Nikki Fried, most senior Democrat in public office in Florida, says ‘we will not celebrate hate speech, bigotry and division’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/23/florida-democrat-rush-limbaugh-flag-governor
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u/L_MO88 6d ago

Lower the flag for the same guy who mocked AIDS victims?

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u/ChasingPerfect28 6d ago

Let's add to the shit pile...

He also called Chelsea Clinton (who was a child at the time time) the White House dog.

He also mocked Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's Disease by saying he was shaking too much and "faking it" during a political endorsement.

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u/Ffffqqq 6d ago

"You’re more than welcome. I’ve got the solution to all this. I’ve got the solution to most crime in America. From this day forward, somebody propose it, liberals should not be allowed to buy guns. It’s just that simple. Liberals should have their speech controlled and not be allowed to buy guns. I mean if we want to get serious about this, if we want to face this head on, we’re gonna have to openly admit, liberals should not be allowed to buy guns, nor should they be allowed to use computer keyboards or typewriters, word processors or e-mails, and they should have their speech controlled. If we did those three or four things, I can’t tell you what a sane, calm, civil, fun-loving society we would have. Take guns out of the possession, out of the hands of liberals, take their typewriters and their keyboards away from ’em, don’t let ’em anywhere near a gun, and control their speech. You would wipe out 90% of the crime, 85 to 95% of the hate, and a hundred percent of the lies from society."

-- Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient; Rush Limbaugh

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u/TheZombieMolester 6d ago

I mean you can tell they love a good single party rule they want Trump - Trump Jr - Ivanka - next Trump - next Trump - next Trump

Yet their dumbasses are too confused to realize that’s what a dictatorship is

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u/PurpleNuggets 6d ago

"dictatorship would be if another Clinton was president. Duh"

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u/jf3l 6d ago

The OG Trump supporter in my area (pro-Trump homemade signs up since like ‘12) had a sign up in his yard that read:

“No more Clinton’s or Bush’s in the White House”

He wants a Trump family dynasty now

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u/DrAstralis 6d ago

I keep calling them serfs looking for a king. They want to be ruled over so badly it burns.

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u/RavenCipher 6d ago

Easier for someone to tell them the lies they seek than for them to think for themselves.

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u/Zeta2020 6d ago

As eternal victims they want someone to protect them and tell them everything’s going to be OK, despite their shitty life choices. They’re the original snowflakes.

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u/GenocideOwl 6d ago

Conservatives obviously do not want actual democracy. They just want to rule.

I mean that was patently obvious in how extremely hard they push on stripping people of voting power and gerrymandering.

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u/constroyr 6d ago

So glad this piece of shit is dead.

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u/DrAstralis 6d ago

That quote couldn't be a more fascist if he included little swastika emojis at the end of every sentence.

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u/Gingevere 6d ago

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

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u/Prime157 6d ago

The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?

George Orwell, 1984

1984 was written with nationalists in mind, and Orwell had a lot of great thoughts on nationalists...

By ‘nationalism’ I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled ‘good’ or ‘bad’.[1] But secondly ­– and this is much more important – I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.

Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. Both words are normally used in so vague a way that any definition is liable to be challenged, but one must draw a distinction between them, since two different and even opposing ideas are involved. By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.

That's actually one paragraph, but for reddit formatting (especially mobile) and to emphasize the second part, I spilt it in two.

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u/NS479 6d ago

Yeah, that is one of his worst quotes.

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u/DOGSraisingCATS 6d ago

The amount of projection is unreal...the fact that he talks about hate speech from liberals. Last time I checked there isn't a whole genre of radio where liberals say bigoted, hateful and borderline violent things on a daily basis.

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u/pixiegurly 6d ago

I also don't recall liberals storming the Senate and beating a police officer to death when they didn't like the election results...

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u/MrUnionJackal 6d ago

This is why the "both sides" narrative has always been bullshit.

There is NO "left-wing" equivalent to Rush Limbaugh. There are people who say the opposite equivalent, sure, but not a ONE has anywhere near the platform that the right gave Rush. To say nothing of his many fungal offsprings grown from the opoid sweat spores he secreted...

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u/NS479 6d ago

Meowth that's right.

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u/trimeta Missouri 6d ago

The "rape police" quote is far worse, IMO.

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u/hedgehogozzy 6d ago

"If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/13/here-come-the-rape-police-rush-limbaugh-reacts-to-trumps-sex-talk-scandal/?outputType=amp

That one? I dunno I still think the "silence and disarm all liberals," is arguably more "dangerous," but we're sorting wet shit from dry at this point.

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u/Saith_Cassus 6d ago

we're sorting wet shit from dry at this point

I've never heard a turn of phrase that so perfectly encapsulates Rush Limbaugh's life and actions so well.

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u/relddir123 Arizona 6d ago edited 6d ago

I really can’t parse this quote. It sounds like a sex ed PSA, but I know he’s somehow mocking the left. The words just don’t compute

ETA: There’s a very interesting debate in the replies to this comment. Some people are saying “this is pro-rape.” Others are saying “this is him making a false equivalence between rape and gay sex/orgies/[insert unchristian sex act here] and blaming consent on it.” Yet more claim both are true. I think the variety of replies is indicative of a few things: a lack of Limbaugh followers, widespread difficulty understanding this quote, and an inherent difficulty in understanding statements that operate on a moral foundation different from our own. Anyway, go read the replies. They’re very informative.

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u/madamz 6d ago

He’s making a comment on what he considers to be sexual immorality of the left. It doesn’t make sense to you or I because we’re not insane, but he’s basically saying liberals are hypocrites because they are ok with orgies but not with rape: “They’ll do the most disgusting immoral sex acts imaginable, but if everyone consents to it then SUDDENLY ITS MAGICALLY OK.”

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u/Seth_Gecko 6d ago

Yeah he’s seriously mocking consent as if it’s a literal joke... Absolutely unbelievable.

“What, so you’re telling me the left is okay with adults getting together and touching and poking and sucking and licking and GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE as long as everyone participating has consented. Is that really what they’re saying?!”

Um... yeah. Pretty much. Why is that so unbelievable?

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u/SanjiSasuke 6d ago edited 6d ago

While orgies MAY be on that list, I imagine its probably really targeted at 'unnatural' things...like gay relationships.

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u/GrandmaChicago 6d ago

You mean... like getting it on with little boys down in the Dominican Republic?

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u/Prime157 6d ago

Spoken as if he was the epitome of morality with 4 wives, and overlap in meeting them.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/rush-limbaugh-announced-divorce-to-wife-on-radio-show.html

Also sounds kind the last one made him quite the cuckold.

https://heightline.com/kathryn-limbaughs-cheating-divorce/

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u/relddir123 Arizona 6d ago

I can feel my brain twisting into knots on that one. I think I understand what he’s going for, maybe?

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u/madamz 6d ago

You have to imagine it from his perspective, where he and everyone he is talking to takes it for granted that any sex act outside of hetero vanilla sex is immoral and wrong. So being ok with gay sex or something harmless like that is on the same level as rape, but libs only care about the rape so they’re hypocrites.

It’s dumb, I know. Don’t overthink it.

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u/NotClever 6d ago

What's probably confusing you is why he seems to think it's a problem that liberals are the "rape police" when there is no consent for a sex act. It's a really weird statement, so I agree it seems like nonsense - no shit it's rape when your remove consent.

I believe that what's going on here is that he's working on an assumption that there are sex acts that are just as immoral as rape, and he's illustrating that liberal thinking, from his point of view, is flawed because liberals think consent magically makes the immoral moral.

Rephrasing for him, he's saying "what the hell is wrong with liberals? Orgies and all other manner of inherently immoral sex acts are perfectly okay with them as long as people consent, but suddenly become immoral if there's no consent? That's all they care about? Disgusting."

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u/happyherbivore 6d ago

But like, that's the point Mr Limbaugh. If you're gonna do disgusting things with another person just fly at it and enjoy, providing its what both/all parties involved want. That's literally the whole point!

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u/Fiddlestax 6d ago

I believe that he is implying that the left is evil because we allow for deviancy from standard 1 male 1 female marital sex and that somehow that is morally equivalent to rape. A lot to unpack, for sure. I would ask him for further clarification, but he is dead.

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u/BelmontIncident 6d ago

It's worse. He's not complaining about sexual deviancy, he's complaining about what he sees as the unfair persecution of rapists.

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u/DrakonIL 6d ago

Yeah, I read "here come the rape police" as the words of a man who did not believe that rape should be punishable.

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u/DrAstralis 6d ago

but he is dead.

still brings a smile to my face.

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u/TacoNomad 6d ago

We also have:

"If a woman has [the right to abortion], why shouldn’t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman? At least the rapist’s pursuit of sexual freedom doesn’t (in most cases) result in anyone’s death.”

And:

"How many of you guys, in your own experience with women, have learned that 'no' means 'yes,' if you know how to spot it?"

Rush had a lot of opinions on rape, none of them good.

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u/Thesaurii 6d ago

Yeah there just no possible defending that one. You can't say he was being sarcastic, or exaggerating. He was just flat out saying that the left is bad because they don't like rape.

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u/SuppressiveFar 6d ago

"For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week." --Rush Limbaugh

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u/panetero Europe 6d ago

Not even Sith Lords are that evil. Meanwhile, a Marvel villain somewhere in his hidden base is going: "That's just way too dark, man."

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u/damadamagoyolur 6d ago

How anyone could read this let alone think this and think it is an actual solution blows my fucking mind. Of course it'd be easier if you could just make the people that you disagree with go away and shut up you fucking fascist.

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u/upgradhelpneeded 6d ago

[most quotes from wikiquote]

So it seems safe to wish his eternal soul "that kind of fun" that he claimed they had in Abu Ghraib, as well as wishing him whatever he was implying in his homophobic quote.

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u/robo2na 6d ago

Totally make them wear armbands so everyone knows they are liberals! /s

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u/Beingabumner 6d ago

Not lowering the flag for this guy is cAnCEl cuLTUrE

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u/MaimedJester 6d ago

He's exaggerating it!

Michael J. Fox, you think it's easy to publically talk with Parkinson's involuntary movements?

Imagine anyone here who has ever experienced public speaking phobia, to have involuntary jerks in the middle of trying to talk with millions watching you.

I think most would piss their pants. Rush just yelled into a microphone.

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u/Gandalfthefabulous 6d ago

"Everyone should be as belligerent and careless as me."

-Rush Limbaugh, probably

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u/Bomlanro 6d ago

“I’m dead and I still suck ass.”

R. Limbaugh

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u/Sunny_Jim509 Washington 6d ago

The contrast between a truly awful person and a genuinely good person couldn't have been more apparent from Fox's response, which was to educate without a shred if malice.

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u/mastamaker 6d ago

But, but, but, AIDS only affects the gays! They deserve to be punished!!!

~ Republicans since the 1980s

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u/Jokeonegg 6d ago

But they don’t mind taking a kneel when someone fires a taser at the cops

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u/IICVX 6d ago

AKA: the previous time a Republican President totally ignored a pandemic to own the libs.

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u/Mr_Laheys_Drinkypoo 6d ago

Mocked drug addicts while being a full time pill-popper himself.

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u/psychopythonmetrist 6d ago

Then after getting caught said he was “being treated unfairly” and the police should drop the case.

Fucking asshat.

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u/hexydes 6d ago

And then the whole thing just quietly went away because conservative media just refused to talk about it.

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u/Antin0de 6d ago

The conservative media at that time was busy helping the Bush regime fool Americans into thinking Iraq still had functioning nuclear/chemical/biolgical weapons.

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u/UnhappyPage 6d ago

Not only mocked, advocated for long prison sentences.

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u/Mushihime64 6d ago

I mean, let's be fair to the man. We should celebrate his greatest accomplishments. Just turns out the best thing he ever die was die.

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u/Critical_Knowledge_5 6d ago

Yes, because Republicans are trash.

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u/-UltraAverageJoe- 6d ago

And drug addicts while also being one.

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u/altmaltacc 6d ago

This decision is emblematic of the conservative movement at this moment. Find a racist and bigoted guy, celebrate him and laud him, and then pretend to be persecuted when people push back on their obvious bigotry. That way you can double down on your beliefs and act like youre the real victim. Its an act that people fall for.

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u/smithm3254 6d ago

Conservatives have been choosing their heroes poorly lately. Like Kyle Rittenhouse and that couple from St Louis that stood on their porch practicing the worst gun safety. You’d think the side of personal responsibility would hold people to a higher standard.

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u/Technical-Marketing4 6d ago

But those people perfectly represent them. Those are heroes to them because they practice what they truly wish they could, deep down, if they weren’t fucking cowards

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u/Discalced-diapason Tennessee 6d ago

They say the quiet part out loud

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u/Technical-Marketing4 6d ago

A lot of them do, yeah, but many of them are too chicken shit to actually act on their beliefs like Rittenhouse did. Thank God for that

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u/mildkneepain Texas 6d ago

Is that little fuck still hiding?

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u/Discalced-diapason Tennessee 6d ago

That is something to be thankful for. However, the fact they support what people like Rittenhouse did, or at the very least don’t denounce it, emboldens the next person with the “courage” (for lack of a better word) to something even more heinous the next time.

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u/Ridry New York 6d ago

“courage” (for lack of a better word)

I think gall is a better word. They both mean boldness but gall has a less positive connotation.

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u/Discalced-diapason Tennessee 6d ago

That’s more accurate! Thank you.

Plus gall is another word for bile, which is bitter and disgusting (found this out before I had my gallbladder taken out after years of gallbladder attacks), and that fits, too.

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u/thisisntmygame 6d ago

What’s scary is they did all that and we’re still only ~70,000 votes away from winning the Presidency.

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u/BasicDesignAdvice 6d ago

Much, much worse is the handful of people who keep congress in a stranglehold. This country is controlled by paranoid and vengeful rural communities representing less than 30% of the population.

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u/Faglord_Buttstuff 6d ago

You left out “religious” - giving legitimacy to religious nonsense that should be a private matter (and not something imposed on others - like if you don’t believe in abortion then don’t have one). Couple insidious religious authority with a lack of critical thinking (deliberately shitty education) and you’ve got a bunch of followers who will believe just about any nonsense a man in uniform yells at them. Then add isolation.

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u/lunapup1233007 Minnesota 6d ago

The Electoral College is broken.

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u/dexter8484 Virginia 6d ago

Nah, it's working just the way they want it to.

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u/tenderbranson301 6d ago

Intentionally broken. Many people put the founding fathers on a pedestal for what they did foresee, but there a lot they missed (EC, lifetime terms for the Supreme Court, the runner up for president being the Veep to name a few).

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u/throwmeawayname 6d ago edited 6d ago

They were never about personal responsibility. It's just their go-to tagline to justify their dislike of the poor and oppressed.

Fiscal responsibility only matters to them when a democrat is in charge or they're discussing a democratic bill.

Family values only matters when it's something they can use to attack an idea they don't like.

It's solely a party of corruption and hypocrisy. And they have to continually play the victim and use scare tactics to keep their positions as they line their own pockets.

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u/spencer4991 6d ago

Until you realize that “personal responsibility” just means “if you’re poor it’s because you’re lazy, especially if you’re a minority”

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u/Beingabumner 6d ago

"Except me, I'm just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire"

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u/dogfriend 6d ago

The Party of trump, McConnell, Graham, Cruz etc. has no concept of 'higher standards'.

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u/lunapup1233007 Minnesota 6d ago

You know it’s bad when McConnell is the best person in a list of 4 people.

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u/CanuckPanda 6d ago

Eh, I’d take Lady Lindsay over Moscow Mitch.

One of those people is standard closeted homosexual self-hating bigotry, the other is pure malice crammed into a turtle shell.

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u/CheesePurrger 6d ago

If there’s anything I’ve learned in the last 4 years are that those standards are much lower than we originally thought. I think the internet just makes it easier for these “regular” folks to get that hero status from them.

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u/yngwiegiles 6d ago

What are conservatives and MAGA sadder about: death of Rush or 500,000 Americans? U know the answer

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u/Cagadaverde 6d ago

All 500,000 of them were BETAS BRO

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u/wankthisway 6d ago

They were all false flag actors trained by George Soros and given secret commands by Hillary Clinton. They're actually all manning the MechaJew space laser cannon that will bring communism to all.

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u/Cagadaverde 6d ago

This but not ironically

-Qanon

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u/gingerhasyoursoul 6d ago

Republicans are experts at being the victim. There is a reason foxnews has been covering cancel culture more than anything else for months. It's the reason CPACs stupid fucking theme is about cancel culture. They are desperate to make themselves the victims to excuse/distract their racist and evil behavior.

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u/Frieda-_-Claxton 6d ago

How ironic after dedicating so much time trying to cancel football players for kneeling during the anthem.

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u/simpersly 6d ago

And they still talk about it. During the Superbowl I was with some people that were anticipating political stunts, and actually contemplated the political meaning behind The Weeknd's red suit during the halftime show.

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u/NoDesinformatziya 6d ago

Note: CPAC (whose theme this year is anti-cancel culture) canceled one of its speakers (Young Pharaoh) for anti-Semitic tweets.

They totally get why people 'cancel', they just pretend when they do it it doesn't count. "Speaking with your dollar" is supposed to be one of the most capitalist things one can do, anyway. Nothing in their philosophy is consistent other than 'acquire power'.

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u/setibeings 6d ago

When you're against real accountability, and people start getting held accountable, you've got to frame things a certain way if you want to keep getting away with murder. Cancel, because people hate it when a show they like is cancelled, and culture, because you have to remind people it's about the culture war.

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u/stupidgregg 6d ago

I hope this becomes the top comment in this thread.

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u/HalfSoul30 6d ago

Narrator: "It did"

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u/Alekesam1975 6d ago

This decision is emblematic of the conservative movement at this moment.

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u/CompetitionProblem 6d ago edited 6d ago

“Donald Trump gets treated unfairly” I think is the biggest example of this insane victim complex. Yes people he’s getting heat because he got caught cheating on his third mail order Eastern European pregnant wife a pornstar prostitute that he tried to swindle because he’s too cheap to even pay his prostitute properly and the he got caught blundering the cover up.

That’s one of a 1000 problems we haven’t had to go through with a president before. So when people say “unfair” I have no idea what the fuck they are talking about. Let’s get Obama to fuck a prostitute and see how republicans handle it differently.

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u/baalroo Kansas 6d ago

My local news channels' facebook pages are overflowing with conservatives crying like giant babies over this and projecting all over everyone. Literally saying things like "OH MY GOD, He was a patriot and should be honored. Libs are such crybabies!" without a single shred of irony to be found.

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u/Wayelder 6d ago

Yup...in their minds, bigots are victims. That's how they rationalize. It's like the psychopathic POV when they shoot the kidnapped child..."See what you made me do?"

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u/coffeespeaking 6d ago

Fried said: “Lowering to half-staff the flag of the United States of America is a sacred honor that pays respect to fallen heroes and patriots.

“It is not a partisan political tool. Therefore, I will notify all state offices under my direction to disregard the governor’s forthcoming order to lower flags for Mr Limbaugh – because we will not celebrate hate speech, bigotry, and division.”

Or anal cyst draft-dodging, misogynistic bigots.

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 6d ago

Amazing how the "support our troops" party has such a hard-on for draft dodgers.

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u/DownshiftedRare 6d ago

"support our troops" is and always has been code for "support our war".

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 6d ago

Kind of like how "blue lives matter" is code for "black lives don't".

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u/CaneVandas New York 6d ago

It just got better traction than "All Lives Matter" The whole point was to just take the wind out of the BLM movement's sails.

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u/Castun America 6d ago

Remember, all lives matter equally. But some are more equal than others.

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u/PseudoPhysicist 6d ago

In the Capitol Riots, protestors were beating Capitol Police with "Blue Lives Matter" flags.

That's like...wow...

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 6d ago

The irony is approaching singularity levels.

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u/CowboyLaw California 6d ago

It's because it's a defensive hedge. They celebrate the military so that people won't question why they never served. "Hey, you can't question my patriotism, I totally support the rights of poor people to go die in foreign countries to further my political agenda!"

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u/Sunny_Jim509 Washington 6d ago

Whoa whoa whoa!

You left out "sex tourist."

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u/doctor_piranha Arizona 6d ago

This is a hill worth dying on.

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u/HurricaneBetsy Florida 6d ago edited 6d ago

Absolutely.

Lowering the flag is for heroes like John McCain.

The Republicans have done extremely devastating damage to the foundation of American democracy in recent history.

Rush Limbaugh is to blame for spreading a lot of hate.

Just begs the question "Is the world a better place because you were here?"

Decide for yourself for Rush.

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u/Tyler_Zoro 6d ago

Just to be clear, what you feel about Limbaugh and his politics is moot. The reason that this should not happen is that we have pretty strict standards around who we lower the flag for and Limbaugh isn't in any of those categories. We could have a debate about whether his actions invalidated that status if he were, but he's not, so the debate doesn't even begin.

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u/probly_right 6d ago

I believe you've struck truth here.

It just doesn't fit here, regardless of politics.

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u/UniqueUsername812 6d ago

Hey guys I dropped my toast and it landed butter side down. Let's put all the flags at half mast, rip toast

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u/runnerswanted 6d ago

Didn’t he get mad when he thought Obama ordered NJ to fly flags at half mast for Whitney Houston? Then it turned out it was actually GOP governor Chris Christie who ordered it and he shut right up?

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u/lurker351 Michigan 6d ago edited 6d ago

Exactly. Being a radio host is not enough to get the American flag lowered in your honor, let alone a political hack like Limaugh. It reduces a sacred symbol to a partisan tool, but that’s nothing new for the trump party.

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u/Yeeslander Tennessee 6d ago

Fried said: “Lowering to half-staff the flag of the United States of America is a sacred honor that pays respect to fallen heroes and patriots. It is not a partisan political tool.

Republican laughter

Rightwing punditry (Rush included) has worked tirelessly for years to coopt the flag as an exclusive symbol of conservatism. They don't even care what it's supposed to represent, which became pretty damn apparent to me during the manufactured outrage over kneeling football players who were "disrespecting" the flag and/or military. Not to mention all the heavy-handed, needlessly defensive bumper sticker messaging I see in the south like, "DOES THIS FLAG OFFEND YOU?!?" and such. Right wing virtue signaling has trained conservative voters to assume liberals hate the flag because they don't wrap their vehicles and bodies in stars and stripes like they do.

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u/stupidgregg 6d ago

I'm a military veteran. Rightwingers act like they have a fucking monopoly on patriotism. It's insulting.

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u/Sunny_Jim509 Washington 6d ago

The irony of a crowd of them invading the capitol with confederate flags is lost on them.

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u/SandmanSanders Virginia 6d ago

but not on the prosecution

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u/IntrigueDossier Colorado 6d ago

Based on the recent enhancements and single misdemeanors turning into a list of felonies, this grand jury doesn’t appear to be fucking around.

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u/YourFinestPotions 6d ago

I find the argument that kneeling during the National Anthem disrespects those who died while on duty a moot point. If anything they should respect a person’s right to protest, because that’s what the Constitution guarantees.

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u/Duke_Shambles 6d ago

Kneeling isn't even a disrespectful gesture. throughout the entirity of human history it has been a gesture of submission and respect for authority.

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u/Duke_Shambles 6d ago

It's just because they don't understand the difference between patriotism and nationalism, or if they do, they want to conflate the two so that it seems as if you aren't a nationalist, you aren't a patriot.

Patriotism demands sacrifice. It's doing the right thing by your country and your country men and women even if it inconveniences you. It's believing in the foundation of your country enough to actually put aside your ego.

As we've all seen with the rise of extremist christian nationalism, these people will attempt a coup if they are even slightly inconvenienced personally, let alone actually asked to make any effort to help anyone but themselves.

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u/Responsenotfound 6d ago

The funny thing is they try that with masculinity. Most of them are sad excuses of traditional men.

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u/routerg0d 6d ago

And Christianity which is equally disgusting. Church to them is where they lock Jesus up and visit him a few times a week if that.

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u/5DollarHitJob Florida 6d ago

Man, this is so true. I've never seen it put into words but this is absolutely true.

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u/liegesmash 6d ago

It also helps to remember that once upon a time conservative meant loyal to King George and approving of taxes that were literally starving the colonists

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u/petraroi 6d ago

Desantis himself is a partisan political tool. He's not governing hes just campaigning. Just like the Orange troglodyte used to do

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u/GlitterPonyCo 6d ago

That's because some of us have actually heard of the flag code and respect it. They confuse patriotism with nationalism entirely too much.

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u/T1mac America 6d ago

I'm sure there's not a part of the "flag code" that says Trump should be dry humping it.

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u/dennismfrancisart 6d ago

Limbaugh was a turd of a personality. He was morally bankrupt. He was not funny, nor was he of exemplary character in any way. His fame came from stoking political porn and making a segment of society feel good about exhibiting bad behavior. He told lies, cheated, was a drug addict and fooled a lot of people into thinking that their worst impulses were ok to act on because they were superior.

He was not a national treasure. He was part of the problem that has left this country in a deep fissure, both morally and politically. Most people who leave this world a better place for having been here don't even get the honor of a national day of mourning. Limbaugh definitely doesn't deserve to. I'd rather see the flag at half mast for the 500,0000 souls lost to COVID 19 in their honor and our collective sadness.

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u/Patron_of_Wrath Colorado 6d ago

Revisionist history is a core to American Conservative beliefs. They are trying to deify Rush like they did Reagan, and will do Trump. It's in their nature, and a foundational facet to why they are so damn disconnected from objective reality.

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u/casewood123 6d ago

Reagan was every bit of a scumbag as Limbaugh was. Possibly worse.

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u/exelion18120 6d ago

Reagan was far worse.

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u/casewood123 6d ago

Listen to this podcast for some good info on how shitty of a person he was.

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u/ModishShrink 6d ago

Listening to Remy the Rat shit on Reagan for four hours is one of my favorite episodes of the Dollop.

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u/BigBlueBallz 6d ago

The world is a better place without him

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u/tophatpainter 6d ago

Didn't the Trump admin refuse to lower the flag for the officer that lost his life during the attack on the capital? Fuck Rush.

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u/barnegatsailor 6d ago

Trump also refused to lower the flag over the White House when John McCain died. He literally had to be shamed into it by everyone around him before he relented.

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u/red325is 6d ago

seriously lowering flags for this creep?!? yuck!!

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u/EADGB3 6d ago

Fuck Rush Limbaugh

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u/cup-o-farts 6d ago

Fuck Rush Limbaugh

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u/Weezy-NJPW_Fan California 6d ago

Fuck ron desantis!

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u/soki03 6d ago

And fuck Rush Limbaugh!

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u/Wasteland_Mystic 6d ago

Florida Republicans can lower their Confederate flags instead.

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u/blazze_eternal 6d ago

I vote we require this title before his name in print. "Famed Oxy addict, Rush Limbaugh".

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u/Electromech_Giant 6d ago

Just like how Rob Ford was always referred to in the media as "Rob Ford, the crack smoking mayor of Toronto".

I like it.

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u/Atupid 6d ago

And conservatives denied it until a video popped up after his death. Which then was spun into “poor guy is dead now, how distasteful to show evidence of his crack smoking”. Lol

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u/Artrock80 6d ago

Chris Farley would’ve done an incredible Rob Ford impression.

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 6d ago

Chris Farley was doing Rob Ford impressions before anyone had heard of Rob Ford.

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u/ZiM1970 6d ago

Famed racist homophobic draft dodging liar of a downer junky piece of shit victim of self-destruction, Rush Mother Fucking Limbaugh.

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u/GotMoFans 6d ago

In theory, that makes him a junkie, right?

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 6d ago

Ah, the ol' Convicted Rapist Brock Turner treatment.

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u/ryhaltswhiskey I voted 6d ago

He liked the oxy!

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u/halpinator Canada 6d ago

I'd rather not demonize drug addicts. That shouldn't define a person. Let's just stick with "human garbage"

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u/Shinymegafarfetchd 6d ago

say what you want about rush, but he died practicing what he preached.

you know, cancer.

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u/rr777 6d ago

Biden called, he wants the medal of freedom back.

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u/Remorseful_User 6d ago

Seriously, is there an official list somewhere? Can we add an asterisk next to his name?

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u/MaimedJester 6d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_recipients

Trump also posthumous gave Babe Ruth the honor, yes that Babe Ruth, an award that didn't exist till 15 years after his Death. I'm sure the Great Gambino really appreciates that Donny. And New Yorkers will suddenly love you for that. You schmuck.

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u/liegesmash 6d ago

Given time Al Capone and Himmler would also get a posthumous award. I mean after all who has done more for American big business than Heinrich Himmler?

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u/Sunny_Jim509 Washington 6d ago

There is. Limbaugh isn't the worst one 45 gave out.

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u/DoubleWalker 6d ago

hate speech, bigotry and division

That's exactly who Rush Limbaugh was. And the fact that pretty much every singe Republican politician is lionizing him is disgusting. They know exactly who he was. But they know their voter base even better. H8 is gr8 for Republican politics.

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u/Beelzabubba 6d ago

Are we going to leave out the sex tourism and possession of unprescribed pharmaceuticals?

How did the “family values party” let him off the hook? Oh yeah, they’re a bunch of hypocrites.

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u/CJnella91 6d ago

"You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James."- Rush Limbaugh. Anyone who celebrates this Asshole needs to be voted out of office.

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u/MostManufacturer7 6d ago

Limbaugh left you in limbo. Eat that up DeSantis.

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u/Oooooooooooohdaddy 6d ago edited 6d ago

I got a three day ban from Reddit (site-wide ban, not just from the sub) for posting in r/conservative - every comment was the same nonsense about “where’s the unity from the left??” And I replied with “Rush was a bigot who deserves all the hate he’s received, the left doesn’t owe you shit”. Cool to know that Reddit mods are in bed with that sub and they can determine that my comment was “violence”

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u/artisanrox America 6d ago

badge of honor for you, bro 👍😎

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u/DykeOnABike 6d ago

we need to drain the r/conservative mods

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u/ARM_vs_CORE 6d ago

What the fuck only three days? Those mods are surprisingly lenient. I got permabanned from another righty sub, /r/conspiracy, for pointing out it had become the exact opposite of what it should be by only allowing posts supporting Trump and the current (at the time) establishment.

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u/Ass_Blossom 6d ago

I approve this headline

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u/xBooYaHx 6d ago

Rush Limbaugh is a shit sandwich he deserves to be treated accordingly.

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u/Disastrous_Acadia823 6d ago

Republicans act so fucking offended when you point out how bigoted and awful they are but then they go and fight for Rush Limbaugh.

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u/KarlKlebstoff Europe 6d ago

That person was a disgrace to your country and everything good that flag may have ever represented.

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u/abstractrobotica 6d ago

Limbaugh would take viagra and have sex with child prostitutes. Look it up. He is scum.

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u/mostlyBadChoices 6d ago

WTF is going on with this lowering the flag for anything other than a high-ranking government official?? Anytime someone famous dies do they put the flag at half mast? No, they don't. He was a radio talk show host. That's it. He contributed jack fucking shit to society.

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u/servohahn Louisiana 6d ago

Dude was a confirmed, out loud racist. This order makes DeSantis a confirmed, out loud racist.

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u/tetsusiega2 6d ago

Rush Limp-balls was the perfect example of what an American SHOULD NOT be.

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u/TsukiMine 6d ago

Limbaugh was a nationalist, not a patriot. And now in death his place of rest becomes a gender neutral public bathroom. Gfy

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u/mikerichh 6d ago

Do we lower flags for talk hosts and commentators dying now?

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u/thisisdropd Australia 6d ago

What about treating him the way he treated AIDS sufferers' deaths?

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u/misterdudebro 6d ago

‘we will not celebrate hate speech, bigotry and division’

Thank you for using actual words that mean what they mean and rejecting hatred.

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u/boomhaeur 6d ago

Can we add an extension to the flgpole and fly it a little higher for a few days since the world is a slightly better place now?

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u/Infinite_Moment_ The Netherlands 6d ago

Fuck you rush.

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u/COPCO2 6d ago

Why was that even considered? Was he a veteran or something? Do we lower the flags for celebrities now?

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u/odupike599 6d ago

Since when do you lower the flag for a radio show host?

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u/SanchezGeorge1 North Carolina 6d ago

Seriously though. How is he worthy of this honor? Is there anything he can cite that aligns him with previous individuals who have been honored?

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u/rocko152 6d ago

Fuck rush Limbaugh. may he burn forever

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u/mechanizedruffian2 6d ago

Conservatives do seem to pick their heroes from the worst of us.

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u/BeholderLivesMatter 6d ago

They should raise the flags higher if possible.

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u/calebthebug North Carolina 6d ago

Lower the flag for the guy who wanted segregation?

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u/broconsulate2 6d ago

This Limbaugh?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-trump-favoring-voters-ignored-a-deadly-hurricane-warning/

Why Trump-Favoring Voters Ignored a Deadly Hurricane Warning

Rush Limbaugh and other conservative pundits’ “hurricane skepticism” in 2017 may have influenced individuals’ decision to pack up the car or shelter in place

... People who live in the southern U.S. are used to evacuating when severe hurricanes are headed their way. Yet in the case of 2017’s Hurricane Irma—which was the costliest tropical cyclone ever to hit Florida and caused $50 billion in damages in the U.S.—the choice to leave or remain turned into a political storm. According to a study published on September 11 in Science Advances, Florida residents who probably voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election were up to 11 percentage points more likely to flee than those who probably voted for Donald Trump. The authors found that “hurricane skepticism” spread by conservative commentators may have been to blame.

... Three major hurricanes occurred in the U.S. 2017: Harvey, Irma and Maria. In the weeks between Harvey and Irma, Rush Limbaugh—the most popular radio host in the U.S., whose conservative talk show draws 15.5 million weekly listeners—said that the government and media were exaggerating Irma’s severity to advance a climate change agenda. “These storms, once they actually hit, are never as strong as they’re reported,” he told listeners. This message was amplified by other conservative pundits, such as Ann Coulter, and by several mainstream media outlets.

What a fucking joke

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u/mightylordredbeard 6d ago

For everyone saying all Rush did was spread hate and division, they need to take a look at this list of all the good things he did:

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u/TheVastWaistband 6d ago

I think it was stupid to ever want to lower a flag for a fucking talk show host in general tbh.

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u/Computascomputas 6d ago

Dude is a radio/news dude or whatever, not a fucking national hero.

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u/omgwhatsavailable 6d ago

Donald and Rush. Wow.

You Republicans really go all-in on the worst that society has to offer.

Curious.....

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u/dacalo 6d ago

Lower the flag a radio talk host? Nope. For Limbaugh? Hell no.