r/gaming Feb 23 '21

The scalpers have been defeated and thus the Holy Trinity is complete!

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u/david_bagguetta Feb 23 '21

Believe me. It’s being talked about.

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u/Cobthecobbler Feb 23 '21

Gotta get that 65 inch 4k so you can enjoy your nintendo switch in stretched 1080p

(please nintendo just make a switch pro already, you cowards)

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u/PerspektiveGaming Feb 23 '21

They are waiting for 32K TVs to release before they make the jump to 4K. It's typical Nintendo marketing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '21

It's because they are aiming for what most people have rather than the best available. Most people still don't have 4k TVs. It's sensible business strategy imo.

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u/gophergun Feb 23 '21

It's hard to tell if that's true. The last data I can find was from 2018, which had 4K TVs making up 31% of household market share, but 4K TVs have also made up a majority of TV sales since at least 2019, so it's possible they may have hit 50%. Best case for Nintendo is that they're not fully supporting a third of the market, but it's likely more at this point.

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u/jlgraham84 Feb 23 '21

That doesn't make sense to me though. It's not like it won't work on a lower quality TV. If the Switch Pro is capable of 4k, it will still work on a 1080p TV.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '21

Cuts costs. Like I said it's a business decision. At the time they were developing it, the trade off between the battery/heating/cost probably wasn't worth it for the sake of some of their market maybe giving a shit about 4k later in the generation?

The other obvious thing here: they want to sell you more products. On top of the above analysis, I'd wager they factored in selling an upgraded version later down the line with 4K in mind. It's the Apple model: keep some things in the bag to sell later as "New & Improved".

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u/jlgraham84 Feb 23 '21

It's been 4 years now though. I agree that 4k was not worth it then but now they are just behind.

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u/Clothing_Mandatory Feb 24 '21

Nintendo has a "blue ocean" strategy. They're not going to release a 4K Switch alongside the new 4K Xbox and PS5. Probably won't this holiday season either. Holiday 2022 is probably earliest for a 4K Switch, maybe launched with BOTW2.

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u/shmallen Feb 23 '21

It’s their differentiation strategy. Microsoft and Sony sell high performance consoles at a loss to make their money on the distribution deals with video game developers. Nintendo sells consoles for a profit with cheap relatively dated hardware with games that are generally marketed as family friendly.

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u/PerspektiveGaming Feb 23 '21

Wow, way to shit on my exaggerated response.

Lol seriously though, I'm just waiting for Nintendo to come out with a VR headset in 15 years.

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u/Yourweirdauntdebera Feb 23 '21

They already did. They were like 10000 generations ahead on that

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u/Jcapen87 Feb 23 '21

Let’s start with joycons that aren’t total ass and go from there.

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u/utdconsq Feb 23 '21

That's my vote. I normally use a controller and don't use it mobile much. Used joycons only for a while recently and can confirm: total ass.

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u/muckrucker Feb 23 '21

Switch's OS at least allows you to customize the screen size! So if your TV turns it into an awkward stretchy mess, you can correct it a bit :)

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u/Zulthar Feb 23 '21

They're probably waiting for Switch sales to slow down before announcing a pro version. So maybe in 2025?

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u/MMAMathematician Feb 23 '21

They lack the testicular fortitude to do so, they have ever since they locked switch users from using android.

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u/TheGreatBenjie Feb 23 '21

Ah yes, not wanting people hacking their hardware is sooo scummy.

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u/MMAMathematician Feb 23 '21

No, it’s not scummy. But the ethics of it is very dubious. They saw people were loading android using the side loader function, which is fairly low level “hacking” and decided to stop this by locking all newer models. The switch is a powerful console, it can run Geforcenow and Shadow through android. This means it’s essentially a top tier pc if the internet allows it, but Nintendo doesn’t want people hacking their hardware. It’s a shame really, the console is on the edge of being the best of all three. Fairly frustrating for me, especially when fans immediately defend nintendo. Also, non Netflix app? On a device that has funimation, YouTube, and Hulu? It’s as if they don’t want the switch to be too popular.

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u/TheGreatBenjie Feb 23 '21

Theres nothing dubious about it, they don't want people messing with their hardware... You want android get a tablet...

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u/MMAMathematician Feb 23 '21

But don’t I have a tablet that I paid 300 dollars for? And android is a software install, I wouldn’t be messing with their hardware if were being specific, merely software but even that is a dubious place for Nintendo considering their refusal to support community games bc they’ve defined it as “hacking”. Look at the smash bros tournament. Your going to have to put up a better arguement than “if you don’t like it but something else.” You could’ve said that Nintendo is attempting to use the residual headroom by supporting games liek doom eternal and Witcher 3, or even Control.

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u/TheGreatBenjie Feb 23 '21

It's not a PC, that's the only "argument" I need. It's not designed to be tampered with, so of course they're going to do what they can to stop it.

That's not weird, it's not abnormal, it's not unethical, and it's definitely not dubious.

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u/MMAMathematician Feb 23 '21

It’s not a pc, it’s a Nintendo switch. It could be a Nintendo switch that supports android out of the box, thus cornering the exploding Cloud gaming market bc it would have Nintendo as a console, android and thus Xbox game pass. Finally geforcenow which would represent a Slew of pc games, all that could be supported if Nintendo gave a shit about you, the one so feverishly defending their right to not allow you to play what you want. It causes Nintendo to lose money because I go and legally downlaod games via emulator on android when they could just support android and make a fuck ton selling hardware. I get what you are saying, it’s their right as a company to protect their IP and thus their hardware, end of arguement. But for the sake of discord think about the fact that poor business practices are causing them to lose money from people like me and it matters.

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u/TheGreatBenjie Feb 23 '21

It's not meant to run android, what is so hard to understand? It's a nintendo game console, not an android tablet.

Also Karen they are definitely not losing money without your business.

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u/optimusbrides Feb 23 '21

Cries in BOTW on C965's

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u/gophergun Feb 23 '21

Do you think that Nintendo would be able to make a handheld console that can look good when output in 4K? I imagine that trying to fit something as powerful as a One X or PS4 Pro into a handheld form factor would be really challenging.

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u/Cobthecobbler Feb 24 '21

I understand that, but even 1440p would be fine. It's a lot crisper than 1080p and looks a lot better when stretched on a 4k TV. I feel that's a hell of a lot more achievable. I also get that on such a small screen, 720p undocked is fine in most cases but 1080p on a small screen like that could look so good and it really doesn't make sense that the switch locks it at 720p undocked. The dock doesn't add any processing power, and it seems the only reason they would want to lock it to 720p is battery life. But why not 1080p when plugged in? It's certainly capable. I'm just saying there are a lot of improvements that could be made on a switch pro that aren't 4k, cause that is admittedly near impossible in its current form factor. Maybe 4k would be possible with a dock that actually does add processing power? Lots of things to consider.

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u/Imahousehippo Feb 23 '21

At least look into TCL. They're pretty damn good tvs for what you pay for them. Sure it's a Chinese brand but half the components in a Samsung probably came from China too.

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u/Lins105 Feb 23 '21

And then hide those wires

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u/demonicneon Feb 23 '21

Dude don’t worry. These new hdr monstrosities suck. They suck all the colour and true blacks out of stuff.

I’m running a toshiba from 2009 still and it looks better than most “smart” TVs

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u/TomLube Feb 23 '21

What even is Bush? I've never seen that brand before lol.