r/OnePiece Feb 13 '21

One piece inspiration ep 3 (sorry for grammatical errors, too lazy to modify the picture) Discussion

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u/Jasonn444 Feb 13 '21

Ironic, considering legs are stronger than arms.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Yep, it was just a hole in the law, they did't considered the kicks ahahaha

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u/LaserPanda420 Feb 13 '21

Someone must have gotten a few kicks out of it!

I’ll show myself out...

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u/MariJoyBoy Feb 13 '21

French law, wasn't it ? =)

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

old french law

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u/cerebrite Feb 13 '21

Am I the only one trying to relate "hole" and "Law" together?

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u/JustAn0therNormalGuy Feb 13 '21

Legs are stronger than arms up until you see gear 4

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u/bomberbih Feb 13 '21

Luffy obviously skips leg day.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '21

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u/JustAn0therNormalGuy Feb 13 '21

I could've sworn there was an enemy with katana swords.

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u/tiagorpg Feb 13 '21

katana legs?shiki

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u/JustAn0therNormalGuy Feb 13 '21

He's one of them but I could've sworn there was a guy who used swords like ice skates.

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u/DarkKing404 Feb 13 '21

Are you reffering to the filler arc that I think comes before thriller bark?

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u/JustAn0therNormalGuy Feb 13 '21

I think that's the one

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u/ThingShouldnBe Feb 13 '21

Daz Bones (Mr. 1) can do something like that.

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u/zan316 Feb 13 '21

Bon boy knew this so he was ready

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u/FearLeadsToAnger Feb 13 '21

Rhino Schneider vs Kong Gun wyt?

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u/JustAn0therNormalGuy Feb 13 '21

I think King Kong gun is stronger personally

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u/Devilslighter Feb 13 '21

Its more of how many people (at the time) can't kick someone in the face but anyone with hands can punch a man in the face (and therefore have the ability to kill a man)

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u/tiagorpg Feb 13 '21

in capoeira they used blades with the feet, that makes the moves make more sense when you know

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_WOES_GIRL Feb 13 '21

It's still easier to punch someone though. I'd say if you had to kill someone with only your hands vs. with only your legs, more people would succeed with their hands.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21 edited Feb 13 '21

Savate was also useful while fighting on ships cause sailors could use hand to hold and avoid to fall into the water. You can say that Sanji is using capoeira but i think Oda was inspired by savate due to the origon (French and Sanji uses french attacks) and due the fact was used by sailors. References: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savate

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u/CaiSant Feb 13 '21 edited Feb 13 '21

I think Black Leg Style probably was inspired by the two.

As Capoeira was designed to look like a dance, so that brazilian slaves could train without calling attention, it is a flashy fighting style that is also well suited to a over the top series like One Piece. Capoeira is more acrobatic and it is common to kick with both legs in the air as Sanji oftenly does.

But, the standard Sanji's stance, in which he stays still with one leg while protects his upper body with his hands is closer to Savate than Capoeira.

Anyways, it's all pretty loosely based at most, as, unfortunately, there isn't a martial art where you burn your own leg in real life.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Unfortunately ahahahaha

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u/CaiSant Feb 13 '21

Anyways, it's all pretty loosely based at most, as, unfortunately, there isn't a martial art where you burn your own leg in real life.

Or any body part at all

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u/ChesnaughtZ Feb 13 '21

Do you have any evidence of Oda being influenced by this or are you just guessing? The “did you know” makes it seem like you’re certain.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

next time i'll write "might be inspired"

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u/sameljota Feb 13 '21

Maybe it's just me but I think this is important. Finding connections between stuff in the series and real life stuff doesn't necessarily mean that's where the idea came from. Depending on how you write it, it sounds like a fact and can be misleading. Most times I end up thinking it's just a coincidence. It's not that hard to create a character that only kicks and come up with a reason for it (and Sanji's reasoning was properly explained). But these posts are still usually interesting though.

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u/usernamenomoreleft Feb 13 '21

Before making OP, Oda was already a pirate fanatic. He even wrote in a comment that he was disappointed because many of the pirates he love left very little written accounts of themselves. So, in this regard, expect Oda to be well-read on such topics.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Yep i also read a book about pirates and is explained why we never see the pirates fight with their ships.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

i'm guessing

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

i put a disclaimer in my profile

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u/impendingbending Feb 13 '21

If I'm not mistaken Savate also uses a cane that french men would carry around because swords were outlawed. Now I kinda wish Sanji fought with a cane

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u/Siere Thriller Bark Victim's Association Feb 13 '21

Brooks kind of already has the cane/sword, agree could be cool if Sanji used a cane but might be repetitive

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u/Cool-Sage Feb 13 '21

Brook used to be a pimp

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u/Boring-Bed-Bug Feb 13 '21

He still is. Did you see his fans after the timeskip?

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u/AppointmentNo9531 Feb 13 '21

He would be better with kitchen knives

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u/SchiffsBased Feb 13 '21

Wasn’t that the whole theme to his fight with Wanze? Kitchen knives are for food.

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u/william_liftspeare Feb 13 '21

Yeah that's the only time (at least as far as I've seen, I'm only a little past Enies Lobby) that he's used a weapon and he only used it on Wanze's ramen

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u/heavenlyrainypalace Feb 13 '21

hes gonna cook kaido tho

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u/blahmaster6000 Feb 13 '21

I want to hear Sanji give a speech about how to properly fillet a dragon lol.

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u/tiagorpg Feb 13 '21

did you read the food wars special, were sanji wield zoro swords to cut a long fish in one strike?

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u/SchiffsBased Feb 13 '21

No, I didn’t know that existed! Thanks for giving me new one piece content!

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u/tvtango Feb 13 '21

We’ve got brook for canes, and I think kitchen tools would be disrespectful to the food.

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u/MariJoyBoy Feb 13 '21

The martial art with cane is called "Canne de combat", but it appeared at the same time than the Savate

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u/WII_DJoker Feb 13 '21

Actually you're thinking of Baritsu which is an English Martial Art.

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u/MilestheAshura Feb 13 '21

I believe your thinking of baritsu a mix of boxing and traditional jujitsu developed in England

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u/appy_apple Feb 13 '21

also iirc oriental martial arts were developed in Ryukyu (japanese islands) because of a ban on blades

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u/krakaillou Feb 13 '21

Savate has actually a super cool history. The kicks came from Asia, the boxing from England. It was at the time when Paris was ridden with gangs (like thousands and thousands of members, like the Apaches).

And Savate kept adapting to the law too, it went to mainly kicks because of what you just said to lots of grapples when kicks became looked at by the law etc.

People learned as self-defense and I think some gangs used it too.

Honestly seemed like a crazy time, but super interesting regarding martial arts.

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u/GoingBerserk55 Feb 13 '21

makes sense since oda said sanji would be french in the real world

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u/ipsen_castle Feb 13 '21

In French, "Savate" also means more broadly "foot" or "shoe"

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u/SanderStrugg Feb 13 '21

Fun fact a lot of modern Karate actually originates from Savate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQUh5tVWd-E

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '21

Considered as a weapon? Damn...

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Yes it's minda funny "I can't punch you? Then i'll kick your ass"

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '21

It's just that it's literally considered as a deadly weapon not just a merely skill. I think that's so impressive

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

I think fists were considered letal weapons due to the large amount of fights.

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u/pancoste Feb 13 '21

What about palm strikes? They can be pretty destructive too, though less versatile

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u/Lulumacia Feb 13 '21

Funny that it's the other way around now, because if you kick someone it can be considered assault with a deadly weapon.

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u/Ihateeveryonetbh Feb 13 '21

Oda:”yeah... I meant to do this”

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

exactly ahahahah

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u/TheMoralGrey Feb 13 '21

You deserve more upvotes.

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u/moogiiiwara Feb 13 '21

I really love these inspiration posts

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

i'm glad :)

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u/WII_DJoker Feb 13 '21

Actually it's a combination of Savate, Taekwondo and Capoeria which is where the more acrobatic techniques come from.

Diable Jambe meanwhile is inspired by Muay Thai techniques.

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u/Riptide1778 Feb 13 '21

capoeira fighters:bajour fuckboi”

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u/RustySeagull Feb 13 '21

Sanjis own explanation of his fighting style is that as the cook his hands are too important to use in a fight, so I never realised it had any real life historical influence. Really cool post!

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u/SSJChroma Feb 13 '21

Imagine the last thing you hear is I'm not trying to catch a case today before you get fucking roundhouse kicked

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u/tyler980908 Feb 13 '21

I hope you keep doing these! It adds a lot of value to the show actually! I only thought that he used his feet because he's a chef and obvious french inspiration, but not to this extent.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

I'm doing it by several years in Italy but i decided to try write those stuff in english on reddit. Oda is a man of culture indeed and he often take inspiration from books, movies, history for his Job.

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u/tyler980908 Feb 13 '21

Cool dude. Keep it up!

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u/yelsamarani Feb 13 '21

while Sanji's style is extremely similar to Savate, I haven't been able to find an actual source having it as Oda's confirmed inspiration.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Oda will mever confirm inspiration by himself, people in japan prefer to ask him how a human katana would look like rather than ask those things but i prefer this way, the best thing about one piece is mistery.

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u/yelsamarani Feb 13 '21

ok, it's just that the wording of your image might be misinterpreted as authoritative info from the guy himself.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

It oda sayed those thing what would be the sense of those posts? ahahahahahahaha I hate those who just post things like "Hey do you know that luffy is a rubber man?" I prefer post thinks that i understood by myself and before i post something i check if there are evidences and man, a french martial art based on kicks used by sailors is an pretty obvious evidence ahahaha

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u/yelsamarani Feb 13 '21

well, you see, "did you know" posts about inspirations are usually understood to have the author as a source.......so you can see how this would be spreading misinformation. Especially when the wording format is " x IS y", implying the veracity of the statement.

Forgive me for being anal about it even in my entertainment, my line of work requires me to be sure of my facts and how I present them, and it just extends to my fandoms.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Also i think people are smart enough to understand that those are my thoughts

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u/yelsamarani Feb 13 '21

hmmmm, forgive me for being negative, but I have a feeling if this blows up this would be like the info of Greg Baldwin being an apprentice of Mako, for him to imitate the latter's Iroh voice. Info we take for granted that would just be proven wrong.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Yes don't worry i know what you are meaning but take the souls game as example. Miyazaki never give answers and the lore is completly made by the fans using the elements of the games. But now i'll put a disclaimer in my profile "Warning: The things that you read in "Did you know" are my thoughts supported by evidences but not Oda's words"

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u/tiagorpg Feb 13 '21

tha ba thing is that people will ignore the disclaimer and just consider it oficial information

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

well next time i'll write "might be inspired"

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u/striderhoang Feb 13 '21

“Your body is a deadly weapon, therefore we outlaw it from fights”

Sailors: Obviously legs are simply tools to walk from one place to another, so I’m using a tool to physically tell this guy “Get fucked”

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u/backwoodzz Feb 13 '21

In french slang, « savater » means to beat up someone or something by kicking it, although it is not very used anymore.

Never knew it came from this though so thanks for the information!

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u/SpecterAgito Feb 13 '21

I always thought that his fighting style was a mix of Taekwondo, Muay Thai and Capoeira. Thanks for letting me know what the actual inspiration is!

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u/Heydude1001 Feb 13 '21

Isn’t the way he pose when he first use devil Jamie is Muay Thai pose? I read from somewhere

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u/Leiatte Feb 13 '21

I had no idea, this is what Sanji’a fighting style was based on but this makes a lot of sense.

Have to do a lot of research when making a story

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u/EnycmaPie Feb 13 '21

Makes sense since Sanji is supposed to be of french origin.

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u/MeowMeowkitty28 Feb 13 '21

Def both for sure great find

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u/Benjjy124 Feb 13 '21

That makes sense why he's a smoker and a chef, both very french things.

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u/Snoo76971 Feb 13 '21

Most of his attacks are in French; Diable Jambe, Concasse, Collier, Brochette, etc

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u/WillOfMyD Feb 13 '21

Well, I do now!

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u/missdoublefinger Feb 13 '21

Dude in the top right looks like he was going for a super kick, but his opponent said, “Aah, aah, aah. Not today.”

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Or seem that the dude is trying to steal other man shoe "fuck of! Drop my shoe!"

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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u/Psychological-Hour29 Feb 13 '21

Love your posts, keep going.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Thank you so much :)

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u/Bourriks Feb 13 '21

Did you know ? Savage means "shoe."

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u/Iswit_real Feb 14 '21

I'm going to post now. What do you want, an hystori inspiratipn pr a science inspiration?

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u/RuddiTheKid Feb 14 '21

And here I thought Sanji was inspired by Capoeira

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u/jollyjam1 Feb 13 '21

French-trained chef and fighting-style, very interesting.

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u/Marky-Silent Feb 13 '21

This is interesting, thanks

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u/Pixulck Feb 13 '21

I really thought that it was capoeira, it's a brazilian fight style

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u/tandrew91 Lurker Feb 13 '21

Sanji the French boi

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u/DaMailmann Feb 13 '21

Well swords > legs huh?

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u/acarmouche Feb 13 '21

He also uses his legs so he never injures his hands. A chef's livelihood is made from his hands.

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u/WuziMuzik Feb 13 '21

savate is like kick boxing. they do use their hands.

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u/CyberShiroGX Feb 13 '21

Hold Up! A Closed Fist is illegal but if I kick someone's head off it's fine... Ok cool

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u/Mirai_no_Beederu Feb 13 '21

Loopholes, my friend. Loopholes.

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u/barbonz Feb 13 '21

I really like this post, please tell us more One piece inspiration if you know.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

I'll do. i'll try to post an inspiration or curiosity everyday :)

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u/SpaceCocaine101 Feb 13 '21

Every day it seems I find something out that reminds me why Oda's the GOAT of manga, in my humble worldview.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

goat?

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u/SpaceCocaine101 Feb 13 '21

Greatest of all time, as an acronym.

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Ah ok ahahahaha

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u/CrypticLUST Feb 13 '21

Greatest Of All Time - G.O.A.T.

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u/razyackerman Feb 13 '21

And another reason he uses legs is because he is a chef and chef can't cook with broken hands

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u/Jai137 Feb 13 '21

Jesus, the level of research...

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u/Silverkip- Pirate Feb 13 '21

Huh? No. It's based on mainly Capoeira and Taekwondo

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u/8008147 Feb 13 '21

this is so cool o shit

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

I'll try to post a "Did you know" every day, i have a lot of those, some can be more interesting than others but il post everything

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '21

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

Yep, i did a comment with my instagram but i got downvoted and i deleted it ahahahaha btw is "ggnuovanetwork"

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u/Iswit_real Feb 13 '21

ant in this comment i literally wrote "i think" ahahah

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u/LStoner1990 Feb 13 '21

Bone on bone contact is considered deadly by law in this day and age. Look it up.